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chang
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Markets "Fund Categories"

I knew it was just a matter of time. The "Fund Categories" rankings under "Markets" is gone.

One of the most useful features on M*. It ranked all asset classes over various time frames from 1 month to 5 years, and within each class it ranked all OEFs.

Morningstar is the biggest pile of smelly dog poo on the internet. Honest to God.

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Rooster
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

It really sucks!!!!

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51
Explorer ○

Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

Totally agree with the first 2 comments.  It was very useful information and now it's gone.  Bad move, Morningstar.

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51
Explorer ○

Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

In addition to the defunct fund categories, the daily analyst reports page hasn't updated since 9/20.  This glitch has happened before.  The more Morningstar tries to do, the more it gets away from its original mission--helping the individual investor.  Give us the tools and we'll do our work as we see fit.  Take away our tools, we see no reason for you. 

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yogibearbull
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

This old link has data through 9/17/19,   https://news.morningstar.com/fund-category-returns/

YBB
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Kinkelly
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

That was one of the most useful tools. I am increasingly seeing less and less reasons to use M*. I find myself using other websites more and M* less. These changes they have made recently seems to be designed to drive people away from their website. I hope the people who redesigned the website and the people who approved the redesign have been fired, it is a disaster. When the portfolio window can’t even fit on the most popular phone in the world, the iPhone, there should be a wholesale house cleaning at M* and new web designers brought in. 

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AlphaGenCapital
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

Found it.  Thanks Rabbit.

Yes, it would be a shame to eliminate this tool.  I did find the quick rank which has similar data but not nearly as friendly. 

https://www.morningstar.com/funds/screener-rank

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chang
Valued Contributor

Re: Markets "Fund Categories"


@Kinkelly wrote:

I hope the people who redesigned the website and the people who approved the redesign have been fired, it is a disaster. 


How much you want to bet they've been promoted?

I remember when M* was a great web site in 2005, full of valuable information, well laid out and accessible, and everything worked.

Then they decided to fix everything that wasn't broken, and they broke everything.

Morningstar IT Chief Greg Goff received a salary of $1.4 million a year.

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chang
Valued Contributor

Re: Markets "Fund Categories"


@yogibearbull wrote:

This old link has data through 9/17/19,   https://news.morningstar.com/fund-category-returns/


Nope! Try clicking on one of the categories - all the data has been wiped clean!

Dog poo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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chang
Valued Contributor

Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

@Darrin did you really mean to eliminate “Fund Categories”? What on earth is Morningstar thinking?

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AlphaGenCapital
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

Looks like it is back.... At least for bonds.

http://news.morningstar.com/fund-category-returns/

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yogibearbull
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"


@AlphaGenCapital wrote:

Looks like it is back.... At least for bonds.

http://news.morningstar.com/fund-category-returns/


But only the top page for bonds. If you click on any category, the table is blank.

YBB
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Juris2
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

KISS is being applied to what used to be one of the most useful resources to individual investors. And KISS is what many former M* website users are doing:  Kissing Off M*, and using this discussion board as a complaint bureau.

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RichinKansas
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

http://news.morningstar.com/fund-category-returns/

Missing my most useful, Sector Equity Funds

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rac98g
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

This was a very useful tool, and M* should bring it back.

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chang
Valued Contributor

Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

Why won't anyone from Morningstar reply?

@Darrin do you have any comment?

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norbertc
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M* Complaints Department

 

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CupertinoBiker
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

I'm jumping on the dissatisfied bandwagon.  This feature is one of the primary reasons I ever visited Morningstar, to find what categories have momentum, and look at the recent performance of different sectors.  Without it, I'm looking closer at the exit door. 


@chang wrote:

I knew it was just a matter of time. The "Fund Categories" rankings under "Markets" is gone.

One of the most useful features on M*. It ranked all asset classes over various time frames from 1 month to 5 years, and within each class it ranked all OEFs.

Morningstar is the biggest pile of smelly dog poo on the internet. Honest to God.


 

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AZInvestor
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"

Adding my voice to this discussion.  I'm a paid member of Morningstar premium product and have been a member for over 10 years.  The changes are extremely disappointing as Morningstar has removed a number of useful tools and data that were part of my paid license agreement.

In discussions with Morningstar, they say that this tool (Category Returns) isn't coming back.  During my discussions with the product group, it was implied that Morningstar is retooling and looking to move away from the retail investor.  Their first step is to water down their website and the data it supplies and put that information behind other more expensive tools they sell, such as those shown at https://www.morningstar.com/products.  

If you notice, they have not updated other useful tools as part of this website update.  For example, why hasn't  Fund Screener (http://screen.morningstar.com/AdvFunds/Selector.html) been part of this update?  Or, the Portfolio builder is still riding on their older technology.  I suspect in future months many of these tools will start to go away. Does anyone know of competitor to Morningstar? 

If we want the product to be what it used to be, we will all need to produce a louder voice!!!!

 

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FatKat
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Re: Markets "Fund Categories"


@chang wrote:

@Kinkelly wrote:

I hope the people who redesigned the website and the people who approved the redesign have been fired, it is a disaster. 


How much you want to bet they've been promoted?

I remember when M* was a great web site in 2005, full of valuable information, well laid out and accessible, and everything worked.

Then they decided to fix everything that wasn't broken, and they broke everything.

Morningstar IT Chief Greg Goff received a salary of $1.4 million a year.


I agree. Best now is just be a basic member and have some access. It seems M* desires business from corporations more than individuals. At least basic is free to use for now.

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